- 10/06/2021 (10:44:59 pm)
- Bob Mulrenin
D-Von Dudley on The Cut Pro Wrestling Podcast
On Being A Trainer:
It was something that Bubba and I, when we got to WWE the first time, we kinda went to wrestling’s school that was was poorly ran and the organization there was very bad. Him and I got together and said, “you know what? We’re not longer with WWE, we don’t have to grind that schedule anymore, why don’t we open a wrestling school?” It allowed us to be able to open it up and work with TNA at the time… So it was great working with the new generation who were being taught by these guys who don’t have a clue on how to act in WWE or even how to basically survive in WWE. How can you ask my trainer how to be in the WWE when they’ve never been themselves? That was one of the keys in me and Bubba opening the school.
On His Attitude Era Run:
It was phenomenal. We were like gods. Everywhere we went we hav to be escorted whether it was a mall or whether it was a restaurant. It was unheard of. I always said I couldn’t fathom when Michael Jackson or Madonna felt like in terms of their stardom, but I think I can say we had maybe 3% of that and it was amazing.
On Becoming A Producer in WWE:
Just for the record, I never wanted to stop wrestling. I never wanted to be a producer backstage for WWE. I enjoy it now but it took me some years to actually embrace it and it like it. Bubba decided, during that 2016 run, that the Dudley Boys were not being treated fair in terms if the position we were. And I get it to a certain degree but you have to understand, the attitude era was gone. And I even said that to him, “it’s gone, it’s not coming back.”
So I’m not coming back to WWE to relive the attitude era. In my opinion and my opinion only, in terms of between the both of us, I didn’t feel that way, like he felt. Like they were messing up the legacy that we chose. A title doesn’t mean anything at this point and stage of the game when you’ve won 24 already.
So to have another title that says you’re the tag team champion at that point didn’t really mean anything. What meant to me coming back to WWE, was helping the young talent out, being able to pass that torch and go back to a place that I felt, back in 2005, that we didn’t leave the right way. There was still some stuff left on the table that I felt we had to come back to WWE in order for me to finish out my career the way I wanted to.
What led to the Dudleys’ departure in 2016:
But there was a contract given to us after the second run, and Bubba didn’t want to sign it. He wanted to do the Bully Ray character and Vince said no. He didn’t want that, he wanted the Dudleys. He didn’t want us to break up. Regardless to what we did in 2002 when we broke up, it still lay fresh in their minds that we were better as a tag team.
It’s his sandbox, you have to play in his sandbox or go home.
I knew coming back we weren’t going to be the top of the food chain. Although the respect we got from the locker room was tremendous. At the same token, I knew my role in coming back was to help the younger talent and help them get over. And in order for that to happen, we got to lay down and we got to do things we probably don’t want to do. But again, that’s Vince’s philosophy and Vince’s sandbox and you got to play by his rules.
On Being a WWE Producer:
I never wanted to stop. I even went to them and said, “hey, listen. I’m not ready to become a producer, there’s still a lot left in me.” And they said, “well you know the old man, you know how he is. He wanted the Dudleys and Bubba didn’t play fair so we’re gonna give you this opportunity to stay with the company.” So I looked at it, and it was Triple H, and I said, “do I have a choice?” And he said, “no not really.” At that point I was going through a divorce and I would have loved to have gone back to Japan to finish my career but going through a divorce at the time and having to travel 17 or 18 hours on a plane to Japan every week was not what I wanted to do so I had to weigh my options and say ok, here we go, I guess I’ll stay here and become a producer. I hated it at first, I didn’t like it. Now, I’ve grown into it and working with guys like The Uso’s, The New Day, even Rey and Dominick, The Viking Raiders, The Bludgeons, I had great matches with those guys in the ring with them as well as producing their matches…I felt that I was wrong again and not getting the opportunity to wrestle continuously but you know it is what it is.
On the Dudleys’ Breakup:
And when people ask me, “What happened with the Dudleys?” Well, Bubba didn’t want to play fair. And I know Bubba will have his own opinion about what happened but again, that’s the majority of it. They gave us both the contract. I signed it. He didn’t want to sign it, and it left a bad taste in their mouth. And by the time he was ready to sign it, some time had already went by. Let me give you a timeline. When Shane McMahon came back in Detroit…that was when I signed the deal. That was in March. So the deal actually came to us in February of that year. Now they’ve been trying to get us to sign it and Bubba wouldn’t sign it. Now all of a sudden we go forward and I’ve signed it and he hasn’t because there’s still things he felt he had to take care of on his side. By the time he got through that, the company was like, “Nah, we don’t want it anymore. We’re not dealing with the headaches.” And they decided not to do it. It wasn’t like the WWE did a bad thing by us. Let me put it to you this way. They gave us a contract that was great and at 44 and 45 years of age, I even told Bubba, “We need to take the money and just go. We’re not gonna get another opportunity like this again. We just need to sign this contract and do another year. If you don’t do another year after it, don’t do it. I’ll go on my own.” But I couldn’t make him sign it.
I wish him nothing but the best. We do not do business anymore. There’s no hard feelings and I don’t have any animosity towards him. It’s just he’s doing his thing and I’m doing my thing.
Bubba and I are not at odds with each other. We don’t hate one another. We just went different ways like most tag teams do. This is not a Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels thing where we hate each other. We don’t. We just had a difference of opinions at that time and we went our separate ways. Even the wrestling school, he has the wrestling school in Connecticut, I have the one in Winter Park over here. So we both individually own our wrestling schools but we just do things separate now. That’s all.
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvvIn9mAKA