INTERVIEW RECAP WITH SID EUDY
- 11/27/2007 (11:58:30 pm)
- Liveaudiowrestling.com
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Former WCW and WWF star Sid Vicious appeared as a guest on the Toronto, Ontario-based Live Audio Wrestling radio program on November 25. The LAW can be heard every Sunday night from 11pm to 1am EST on Newstalk 1010 CFRB and on a variety of radio stations coast to coast in Canada. The show is also available online throughout the week at www.liveaudiowrestling.com. The following is a transcript of the Vicious interview:
Dan Lovranski (Co-host, Live Audio Wrestling): I want to talk a little bit about when you were part of The Four Horsemen in WCW, because that must have been a thrill for you to be working with Flair and Arn and all those guys.
Sid Vicious: Are you kidding? I was almost like dreaming. I walk into WCW and within just a few months I’m a Horseman. And I’d been watching that for a long time. And to be one of the Four Horsemen was one of the biggest things in the business. And to me it was an honor. And also, a lot of people don’t realize this, but who should get the credit for all my interviews - for teaching me how to do interviews - was Arn Anderson. I never did an interview the whole time for the Skyscrapers. I was a little embarrassed, a little shy. So Arn would give me two or three things to say one week. He’d say, “Okay, you say this this week. And next week you say this. And next week you say this.” And next thing you know it, I’m cutting interviews.
Lovranski: Yeah. Well, you certainly got to learn with one of the best. I don’t think anybody would argue that. I mean, Arn Anderson’s promos were always amazing, that’s for sure.
Vicious: Well, I don’t think I ever saw him in my life … stumble. He was just a natural for it.
Lovranski: Yeah, he was. And you know the other thing I loved about Arn’s promos was that he never yelled and screamed.
Vicious: Right. And that’s something he taught me too. He said, “Sid, there’s a time for someone like you to scream and there’s times not too.” And so, a lot of people worked with me on that one.
Lovranski: That’s the thing - again, watching as a youngster during that time period, I used to really dig when you would just come out and go, “I’m Sid Vicious and I’m the man who rules the world.” And that’s all you had to say.
Vicious: That’s it.
Lovranski: Now, I don’t know if this is true or not - it’s one of those stories that you hear about through the years - but I did want to bring it up and let you tell the real story. I remember hearing something about you getting into a fight with Brian Pillman around this time in a bar or something like that.
Vicious: No, it never happened. What happened was I was working for the WWF. I tore my bicep and I always parked my car at the HoJo’s. I’m in the WWF and we’re selling out every night, so these guys, they’re a little jealous of that. Now, he said something smart to me, and I said, “Look, Brian, if you don’t like it, let’s just go outside and I’ll kick your ass with one arm.” And he didn’t want to. And that’s all there was to it.
Lovranski: Now I guess when you came into the WWF and they called you “Sid Justice”, I guess that was because Vince just didn’t want to call you “Sid Vicious”, I guess - was that the deal, or …
Vicious: The reason why is the aunt of the real Sid Vicious owns that.
Lovranski: Oh, is that right? I didn’t know that!
Vicious: Yeah. And he didn’t want to chance on making something big and making her any money.
Lovranski: Very interesting, I had no idea. Obviously, working with Hulk Hogan in the WWF - how were your experiences with Hogan? Because a lot of people don’t have a lot of good things to say - as far as the backstage politics and all that kind of stuff with Hogan.
Vicious: Honestly, he always treated me real well. So that’s all I can really say. He never really did bad to me.
Lovranski: I found it very interesting the way they kind of brought you in, with you refereeing that tag team match at SummerSlam.
Vicious: I’ll explain that real quick: What the deal was, I was supposed to do TVs and Pay-Per-Views for one year. And then they had to fire the Warrior that night. So that (Expletive) my whole deal and I had to start early.
Lovranski: Is that why they had you referee that match?
Vicious: Right. And they fired the Warrior as he walked out.
Lovranski (Laughs): For the first of many times, I’m sure.
Vicious: Sure.
Lovranski: What was it like working with him? Because again, there’s another guy when you hear interviews with him …
Vicious: He’s an idiot.
Lovranski: What’s that?
Vicious: That’s the biggest … I mean, I never experienced anything that weird in my life.
Lovranski (Laughs): Did he really talk … was he really like those promos?
Vicious: Worse that that.
Lovranski: Worse?!
Vicious: Well, I’ll give you a story one time - and I quit two nights after this. He comes to me, he says, “I’m gonna come to the ring, I’m gonna clothesline you, clothesline you, you take a powder, I’m gonna do the rope thing.” I says, “No, I’ll come in, I’ll clothesline you, send you off. Duck my clothesline - I’ll take one clothesline, then I’ll powder.” And he starts pointing up to the sky and goes, “Well, the Warrior tells the st …” I said, “Hold on.” I’m looking in the dressing room for a camera.
Lovranski: (Laughs)
Vicious: So I go up to Jack Lanza, I said, “Hey, you need to have a talk with this guy. I’m not about to (Expletive) work with some weirdo like this.”
Lovranski: I have to ask you too about WrestleMania VIII, where you kicked out from Hogan’s legdrop. And some people say it was a double-cross, other people say Papa Shango was supposed to run out and interfere, other people say Harvey was interfering … can you kind of give me the story on what happened there?
Vicious: The deal was there, from what I understood, was I was first told that I was gonna kick out and he was going to put me over. And then none of that happened.
Lovranski: And that’s what they told you.
Vicious: Right.
Lovranski: And what, did they tell Hogan something different?
Vicious: I guess so.
Lovranski: So was this sort of like the Bret Hart kind of screwjob kind of thing?
Vicious: Yeah.
Lovranski: So, and then I guess you left the company shortly after that?
Vicious: I left pretty quick after that.
Lovranski: One of the other stories I used to hear a lot when I was younger too, when you would disappear or reappear in a promotion or wouldn’t show up for a match, is that you were blowing of wrestling matches to play softball. Is there any truth …
Vicious: No, there’s no (Expletive) truth to that. Listen, first I had my lung taken out when I was working for WCW. I came back, I wasn’t physically what they wanted me to look like. So they said, “Go back home and work out some more.” I go back home - of course, right here in Memphis is a big softball place … I really have a feeling that Jerry Lawler was the one that started that (Expletive). And so I got in a lot of trouble for it, but I was told to. And that’s how that all started.
Lovranski: Right. Yeah, because that was a story I kept hearing for years, and I couldn’t understand - why would he leave wrestling to go play softball?
Vicious: That’s why I’m saying this. It doesn’t make any (Expletive) sense.
Lovranski: Yeah, you’re right. It makes no sense at all. And I guess after that it was back to WCW once again, right?
Vicious: Right.
Lovranski: Because when you were doing .. .and Col. Parker was your manager and the two of you were teaming …
Vicious: I created that guy … I got his name, I wrote his interviews - and I also created the Harlem Heat.
Lovranski: Really?! That’s very interesting. Because I guess Booker and Stevie Ray, they didn’t have a gimmick at the time?
Vicious: Well, they did … when I saw them on that Global, I said, “I like these guys.” I volunteered to go do a benefit for Kerry Von Erich after he killed himself. And I told those guys I want to fight like Hell to get them in, and I did.
Lovranski: Nice, nice. And look - here’s Booker T, he’s still at the top of his game today.
Vicious: Well, in my opinion, the better of the two was Stevie Ray.
Lovranski: Really?!
Vicious: He was twice as smart … I just believe he was more money.
Lovranski: I gotta ask you obviously about the Sin Pay-Per-View when you broke your leg there. Me and my buddies were getting ready to do the show that night and we’re watching this Pay-Per-View, and you make that jump and you break your leg, and that was one of the most startling things I’ve ever seen. Were you already hurting or injured at that point or was it just a fluke accident?
Vicious: What do you think?
Lovranski: I’m guessing fluke accident.
Vicious: Yes, it was a fluke accident.
Lovranski: I mean, what must have went through your mind at that point, when here you are in the middle of a televised live Pay-Per-View match?
Vicious: Well, what I was trying to do … I knew if we could get the pin, they’d go dark. And I couldn’t get anybody to (Expletive) doing anything. And everybody panicked.
Lovranski: I guess so. Because you were in there with Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, and Animal, right?
Vicious: Yeah, not three of your smartest people.
Lovranski: Is it true that you want to get back into the WWE?
Vicious: Yes, I do.
Lovranski: And what have you done to kind of make that happen, anything? Have you talked to Vince lately?
Vicious: We’ve been talking for a while now, so we’re just trying to get things worked out.
Lovranski: What about TNA? Are you familiar with TNA at all, Sid?
Vicious: Yeah, but the deal there is I’ve got big goals right now and they’re not able to help me reach those.
Lovranski: Right. What are your goals?
Vicious: Well, a lot of them.
Lovranski: Well, what are some of them, though?
Vicious: One of them is that I want to be in front of eighty thousand people again. And that’s a big one for me.
Lovranski: Well, that’s certainly something to shoot for, for sure. It would be very …
Vicious: What do you mean “something to shoot for” - you don’t think I can do it?
Lovranski: I did not say that at all. If you came back to the WWE, is there anyone in particular that you’d want to work with?
Vicious: Really, I don’t know right now. I haven’t watched enough of their shows. We’d have to … this business is simple: You get a guy like me, you get me over … then I can work with people who aren’t over as well as they were. And that’s what we’re looking for.
(Transcribed by Adam Wilcox)
Dan Lovranski (Co-host, Live Audio Wrestling): I want to talk a little bit about when you were part of The Four Horsemen in WCW, because that must have been a thrill for you to be working with Flair and Arn and all those guys.
Sid Vicious: Are you kidding? I was almost like dreaming. I walk into WCW and within just a few months I’m a Horseman. And I’d been watching that for a long time. And to be one of the Four Horsemen was one of the biggest things in the business. And to me it was an honor. And also, a lot of people don’t realize this, but who should get the credit for all my interviews - for teaching me how to do interviews - was Arn Anderson. I never did an interview the whole time for the Skyscrapers. I was a little embarrassed, a little shy. So Arn would give me two or three things to say one week. He’d say, “Okay, you say this this week. And next week you say this. And next week you say this.” And next thing you know it, I’m cutting interviews.
Lovranski: Yeah. Well, you certainly got to learn with one of the best. I don’t think anybody would argue that. I mean, Arn Anderson’s promos were always amazing, that’s for sure.
Vicious: Well, I don’t think I ever saw him in my life … stumble. He was just a natural for it.
Lovranski: Yeah, he was. And you know the other thing I loved about Arn’s promos was that he never yelled and screamed.
Vicious: Right. And that’s something he taught me too. He said, “Sid, there’s a time for someone like you to scream and there’s times not too.” And so, a lot of people worked with me on that one.
Lovranski: That’s the thing - again, watching as a youngster during that time period, I used to really dig when you would just come out and go, “I’m Sid Vicious and I’m the man who rules the world.” And that’s all you had to say.
Vicious: That’s it.
Lovranski: Now, I don’t know if this is true or not - it’s one of those stories that you hear about through the years - but I did want to bring it up and let you tell the real story. I remember hearing something about you getting into a fight with Brian Pillman around this time in a bar or something like that.
Vicious: No, it never happened. What happened was I was working for the WWF. I tore my bicep and I always parked my car at the HoJo’s. I’m in the WWF and we’re selling out every night, so these guys, they’re a little jealous of that. Now, he said something smart to me, and I said, “Look, Brian, if you don’t like it, let’s just go outside and I’ll kick your ass with one arm.” And he didn’t want to. And that’s all there was to it.
Lovranski: Now I guess when you came into the WWF and they called you “Sid Justice”, I guess that was because Vince just didn’t want to call you “Sid Vicious”, I guess - was that the deal, or …
Vicious: The reason why is the aunt of the real Sid Vicious owns that.
Lovranski: Oh, is that right? I didn’t know that!
Vicious: Yeah. And he didn’t want to chance on making something big and making her any money.
Lovranski: Very interesting, I had no idea. Obviously, working with Hulk Hogan in the WWF - how were your experiences with Hogan? Because a lot of people don’t have a lot of good things to say - as far as the backstage politics and all that kind of stuff with Hogan.
Vicious: Honestly, he always treated me real well. So that’s all I can really say. He never really did bad to me.
Lovranski: I found it very interesting the way they kind of brought you in, with you refereeing that tag team match at SummerSlam.
Vicious: I’ll explain that real quick: What the deal was, I was supposed to do TVs and Pay-Per-Views for one year. And then they had to fire the Warrior that night. So that (Expletive) my whole deal and I had to start early.
Lovranski: Is that why they had you referee that match?
Vicious: Right. And they fired the Warrior as he walked out.
Lovranski (Laughs): For the first of many times, I’m sure.
Vicious: Sure.
Lovranski: What was it like working with him? Because again, there’s another guy when you hear interviews with him …
Vicious: He’s an idiot.
Lovranski: What’s that?
Vicious: That’s the biggest … I mean, I never experienced anything that weird in my life.
Lovranski (Laughs): Did he really talk … was he really like those promos?
Vicious: Worse that that.
Lovranski: Worse?!
Vicious: Well, I’ll give you a story one time - and I quit two nights after this. He comes to me, he says, “I’m gonna come to the ring, I’m gonna clothesline you, clothesline you, you take a powder, I’m gonna do the rope thing.” I says, “No, I’ll come in, I’ll clothesline you, send you off. Duck my clothesline - I’ll take one clothesline, then I’ll powder.” And he starts pointing up to the sky and goes, “Well, the Warrior tells the st …” I said, “Hold on.” I’m looking in the dressing room for a camera.
Lovranski: (Laughs)
Vicious: So I go up to Jack Lanza, I said, “Hey, you need to have a talk with this guy. I’m not about to (Expletive) work with some weirdo like this.”
Lovranski: I have to ask you too about WrestleMania VIII, where you kicked out from Hogan’s legdrop. And some people say it was a double-cross, other people say Papa Shango was supposed to run out and interfere, other people say Harvey was interfering … can you kind of give me the story on what happened there?
Vicious: The deal was there, from what I understood, was I was first told that I was gonna kick out and he was going to put me over. And then none of that happened.
Lovranski: And that’s what they told you.
Vicious: Right.
Lovranski: And what, did they tell Hogan something different?
Vicious: I guess so.
Lovranski: So was this sort of like the Bret Hart kind of screwjob kind of thing?
Vicious: Yeah.
Lovranski: So, and then I guess you left the company shortly after that?
Vicious: I left pretty quick after that.
Lovranski: One of the other stories I used to hear a lot when I was younger too, when you would disappear or reappear in a promotion or wouldn’t show up for a match, is that you were blowing of wrestling matches to play softball. Is there any truth …
Vicious: No, there’s no (Expletive) truth to that. Listen, first I had my lung taken out when I was working for WCW. I came back, I wasn’t physically what they wanted me to look like. So they said, “Go back home and work out some more.” I go back home - of course, right here in Memphis is a big softball place … I really have a feeling that Jerry Lawler was the one that started that (Expletive). And so I got in a lot of trouble for it, but I was told to. And that’s how that all started.
Lovranski: Right. Yeah, because that was a story I kept hearing for years, and I couldn’t understand - why would he leave wrestling to go play softball?
Vicious: That’s why I’m saying this. It doesn’t make any (Expletive) sense.
Lovranski: Yeah, you’re right. It makes no sense at all. And I guess after that it was back to WCW once again, right?
Vicious: Right.
Lovranski: Because when you were doing .. .and Col. Parker was your manager and the two of you were teaming …
Vicious: I created that guy … I got his name, I wrote his interviews - and I also created the Harlem Heat.
Lovranski: Really?! That’s very interesting. Because I guess Booker and Stevie Ray, they didn’t have a gimmick at the time?
Vicious: Well, they did … when I saw them on that Global, I said, “I like these guys.” I volunteered to go do a benefit for Kerry Von Erich after he killed himself. And I told those guys I want to fight like Hell to get them in, and I did.
Lovranski: Nice, nice. And look - here’s Booker T, he’s still at the top of his game today.
Vicious: Well, in my opinion, the better of the two was Stevie Ray.
Lovranski: Really?!
Vicious: He was twice as smart … I just believe he was more money.
Lovranski: I gotta ask you obviously about the Sin Pay-Per-View when you broke your leg there. Me and my buddies were getting ready to do the show that night and we’re watching this Pay-Per-View, and you make that jump and you break your leg, and that was one of the most startling things I’ve ever seen. Were you already hurting or injured at that point or was it just a fluke accident?
Vicious: What do you think?
Lovranski: I’m guessing fluke accident.
Vicious: Yes, it was a fluke accident.
Lovranski: I mean, what must have went through your mind at that point, when here you are in the middle of a televised live Pay-Per-View match?
Vicious: Well, what I was trying to do … I knew if we could get the pin, they’d go dark. And I couldn’t get anybody to (Expletive) doing anything. And everybody panicked.
Lovranski: I guess so. Because you were in there with Steiner, Jeff Jarrett, and Animal, right?
Vicious: Yeah, not three of your smartest people.
Lovranski: Is it true that you want to get back into the WWE?
Vicious: Yes, I do.
Lovranski: And what have you done to kind of make that happen, anything? Have you talked to Vince lately?
Vicious: We’ve been talking for a while now, so we’re just trying to get things worked out.
Lovranski: What about TNA? Are you familiar with TNA at all, Sid?
Vicious: Yeah, but the deal there is I’ve got big goals right now and they’re not able to help me reach those.
Lovranski: Right. What are your goals?
Vicious: Well, a lot of them.
Lovranski: Well, what are some of them, though?
Vicious: One of them is that I want to be in front of eighty thousand people again. And that’s a big one for me.
Lovranski: Well, that’s certainly something to shoot for, for sure. It would be very …
Vicious: What do you mean “something to shoot for” - you don’t think I can do it?
Lovranski: I did not say that at all. If you came back to the WWE, is there anyone in particular that you’d want to work with?
Vicious: Really, I don’t know right now. I haven’t watched enough of their shows. We’d have to … this business is simple: You get a guy like me, you get me over … then I can work with people who aren’t over as well as they were. And that’s what we’re looking for.
(Transcribed by Adam Wilcox)
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